The TC grip I had been referring to was the 'initial' that had the deep Minimize where your hand World wide web rests, it gave quite a Chunk. The 2 TC's I've now are the later (much larger 'humpback' style) grips that handle recoil much better, not a difficulty within the thirty-thirty, 35 Rem. and 375 Win. barrels I have.It should not be relied up